Meijer Family living in Aarle-Rixtel

Johanna Maria Theresia Meijer was born May 2 1928 in Aarle-Rixtel and was the daughter of Joannes Martinus Meijer, born in Raalte on 12 March 1880 and Elisabeth Maria van Kuijk, born Nuenen on 19 May 1896.
See index population register openarchieven.nl/rhe:AB51998C-837F-443F-85CE-9486DBECBA1F (opent in een nieuw tabblad)

Using the search engines on openarchieven.nl/ (opent in een nieuw tabblad) would be an option for you to search for your ancesters as this site is available in English. It's also possible to use FamilySearch.

@Antonius, - In particular your are looking for **living relatives** ?
That will be difficult through this forum where people are mainly focused on ancestors, their history , where they lived, moved to etc. etc.
One always has to consider the privacy of living relatives. Can't just publish anything or share info about them in this open forum.
But you never know if someone reads this and happens to know living family members of this family. And perhaps contact can be made via the staff at BHIC.

In The Netherlands >>> Civil registry data becomes public after 50 years for death certificates, after 75 years for marriage certificates and after 100 years for birth certificates.

The couple [ Joannes Martinus Meijer and Elisabeth Maria van Kuijk ] did not stay in this region of the province of North Brabant for very long. At some point after the birth of their daughter in 1928, the family moved from Aarle-Rixtel to Raalte. That is known because ore children of this couple were born in Raalte in 1930, in 1931, 1935 and 1942, among others. Some of these children also died young. Their deaths can be found e.g. through open archives. [ because this info became public after 50 years]

Until about the middle of the last century, newspapers were still allowed to regularly publish announcements of births, marriages and deaths in local newspapers.
In those historical newspapers you'll find, among other things, announcements of ‘bevallen = births’ >> in 1930 (two sons), in 1931 (a daughter) and in 1935 a son named Marinus Josephus and a stillborn child in 1942? For the Dutch historical newspaper see >> www.delpher.nl
You search for example on the two surnames with the word PROX in between, so >>> Meijer prox Kuijk.
You then search 20th century and tick family notices.

Thank you Dorethe - I have this information and used the method you suggested. What I can't seem to find is if Johanna Maria Theresia Meijer and husband Johannes Albertus Janssen born 3rd November 1923 in Renkum ever had children. I was hoping to contact a living relative of Johanna Meijer. Using the population register 1921 listing all the Meijer siblings at that time I can't seem to find and marriages or children from the other of Johanna's siblings. I am not a subscriber to any Ancestry site and am tring to go directly to the Provinces archives. Being Australian and a non Dutch reader or speaker this has been hard.

Hi Helena - Thank you for your reply. You are correct, I am looking for living relatives but also children who were from the relationship of this couple either still living or passed. Johannes Albertus Janssen is one of three brothers and two sisters of my mother. I have never been able to determine if these two relatives had children. As you say maybe someone will see this post and are in fact relatives. I don't hold out hope as most people are suspicious of emails from people they don't know. I have made contact with the family of the other of my mothers brothers family. By asking throughout the younger children nobody can recall what became of them. Johannes died in 1975 in Raalte and Johanna died in Raalte in 1990. All information after that seems to have stopped. Maybe because I am not a subscriber to any Ancestry data sites, I dont have accesss to any more information.

You can also request extracts from the National Register of Deceased Persons.
There will be some costs involved.

cbg.nl/bestellen-cbg/uittreksels-nro/uittreksels-pkpl/ (opent in een nieuw tabblad)
cbg.nl/bronnen/cbg-verzamelingen/nationaal-register-overledenen-nro/ (opent in een nieuw tabblad)

To understand the info just send the Dutch txt through an translate program, e.g. DeepL

Hi Helena - May I ask if you work for BHIC or just a fellow researcher? Either way I am grateful for your reply and Dorethe's reply. I was shocked to get a response as I have reverted to facebook messenger to contact Dutch citizens with the last name Meijer and who share facebook friends with relatives of the Janssen family. As you can imagine with the high level of scams going on in the world, I haven't had too many responses. As Dorethe's response suggested I used OPENARCHIVE site. I did and have a list of Johanna's siblings born in the 1920-1930's. I was trying to attach children to them either passed or possible living. Then depending where they were living at the time, try to match them with telephone records. It seems to me that through the 1920's - 1990's most Dutch residents didn't move to far from their parents home. I was given a possible lead into a relative of Johanna Meijer and sent a facebook messager txt. This person said he couldn't help but didn't pass on to me his parents names so I could eliminate any of the siblings. I can't seem to access Netherlands telephone book, Any ideas?

When a BHIC staff member responds in a topic you'll see their photo and a little blue box with 'bhic' next to their name.
I am a fellow researcher.

As for following the J.M. Meijer- E.M. van Kuijk family, you can find most (perhaps all?) their children via openarchives.
From the population register you can already tell that (briefly? ..dates clash a bit..) he was a postulant (in Boxtel), that he was a coppersmith and lived and worked as a coppersmith's servant in Kuinre (Overijssel), in Culemborg (Gelderland) before settling down for a few years as carpenter in southeastern Noord-Brabant and marrying Elisabeth Maria van Kuijk in Lieshout in 1921. proxy.archieven.nl/48/AE0C5D15FC3945659709DE82FB0B3483 (opent in een nieuw tabblad)
Some children born in Nuenen, Beek en Donk and Aarle-Rixtel. Younger children from 1930 onwards in Raalte.

Thanks Helena - I followed your link to Marriage Certificate of JM Meijer and Elisabeth.
I have received prayer cards and Personal cards for both of these people and no children are recorded at the time the record was made. I suppose the obvious answer is that they just didn't have children. What would make me convinced was if a relative came forward and said " Johannes and Johanna didn't have children"

Hi Bas - Thank you for that information. As you can read I am trying to discover if Johannes Albertus Janssen and Johanna Maria Theresia Meijer had children. I can't seem to locate any children from Johanna's siblings
Johannes Bernardus Meijer born1926
Joannes Antonius Meijer born 1924
both these boys should have married
I appreciate your help.

Johannes Bernardus Meijer, born September 12, 1926 died on December 19, 2010 and was buried in Raalte. Attached you will wind his gravestone
online-begraafplaatsen.nl/zerken.asp?command=showgraf&bgp=2568&grafid=1166705&char=A (opent in een nieuw tabblad)

Attached you will find the obituary of Johannes Bernardus (Jo) Meijer
mensenlinq.nl/overlijdensberichten/jo-meijer-246612 (opent in een nieuw tabblad)

For all other searchers. Attached you find the marriage inscription of the parents of Antonius.
They married in 1947 in Renkum
openarchieven.nl/gld:419482F4-4E55-4D81-A14D-23F14D012164 (opent in een nieuw tabblad)

Hi Bas - What a great find you have sent me. Not only is it Johannes Bernardus grave site but it shows his wife Alberta Antonia Alferink.
Could you send me the link to this cemetary site.
May be I can find more of the Meijers partners on the grave stones.
Many Thanks

Hi Bas - Thanks - The above marriage link is actually my parents 1947 in Renkum. is this needed for more searchers

The general site is www.online-begraafplaatsen.nl
Your general question is that you want to know if the family Janssen-Meijer has children.
The reason that i gave the link to your parents' marriage is that researchers could look for more relatives of your mother's lineage.
You already gave the answer that it seems that they did not have children.

Hi Bas - Looking at the obituary of Johannes Bernardus (Jo) Meijer and without using Dutch to English translate it appears that the children or children and partners are listed on document. would I be correct?
Martin en Antoinette
Tim en Monique
Sharon en Joost
Hard to identify who is a Child of Johannes and Albertha or childrens partners.

Hello Antonius,

The obituary mentions: ... passed away our dear dad and proud grandpa ...

Custom is to mention (in this case) a child's name first, followed by a partner's name and next the (grand) children.
Here Martin and René then are the sons of the deceased.
In italics the children of Martin (Tim and Sharon) and their partners.

The address right underneath the date might still be an active contact address of one of the relatives.

With regards,

Belem

Hi Bericht - I mapped it out as you say about the children mentioned in Obituary.
There is no mention of children then for Rene and Harriet
Tim Meijer married to Monique and Sharon Meijer married to Joost. Their parents are Martin Meijer and Antoinette.
That leaves no children mentioned for Rene and Harriet at that stage?
Have I got that correct

Hello Antonius,

Indeed, at the time of the obituary René and Harriët apparently didn't have children.

With regards,

Belem