Genealogy of Joannes Georgius Cornelius

Hello Mike,

You don't find the place Beokelo.

I think maybe Boekel
https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boekel_(gemeente) (opent in een nieuw tabblad)

Kind Regards,

Hi Mike, - Have you seen the original record of the baptism of their daughter Anna on 8 November 1705 in Klotten?
If so: Do you have a link to or a copy of this baptism register that we can read somewhere?
In the Family Search index, the father's name in 1705 is listed as Georg Cornelius Brabantg.
For the baptisms of son Cornelius (1707) and daughter Margaretha (1709), only Georg Cornelius or Joannes Georgius Cornelius is listed in de FS index. Where did you find the name in 1673? Can you pls. indicate a source.

If the index in FS is to be believed (note: the index is man-made and may contain errors, especially when the handwriting was not clear or a transcriber was not quite familiar with 'foreign' names), well....he is listed in this FS index as being from “Beuel” in 1731 (at his death?). To me, 'Beuel' sounds more like "Budel" (also located in Brabant and pronounced as 'Buul' in local dialect, which may be more plausible than Boekel? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budel (opent in een nieuw tabblad)

In the 17th and 18th centuries, peddlers and other craftsmen travelled from Budel and surrounding places in the wider region to other parts of Europe, including Germany. They were the so-called “Teuten”. They were the travelling traders and craftsmen (coppersmiths etc.) from this region who travelled during the warmer months with their wares between 17th to the early 20th century. Their trading area could cover as far away as the north of Germany towards the Pfalz (between Bremen, Hannover, Stuttgart...and further). In the winter months they often went back to their villages (..or they married abroad (or not?) and stayed in these area where they started a family...

But again: without having seen the original, I dare not say which place might be meant... although Budel seems to me to be a potential candidate. In the early 18th century, Brabant largely covered the current Belgian provinces of Flemish Brabant, Walloon Brabant, Antwerp and the Brussels-Capital Region, as well as the vast majority of the present-day Dutch province of North Brabant.

On this site you will find some “Teuten” families from Budel. It is possible that not all names have been found yet?
hamontachel.com/teutenfamilies-budel/ (opent in een nieuw tabblad)

Ich habe die originale gescannte Eintrag von 1705 bei Archion (Bistumsarchiv Trier, Klotten-St Maximin) gefunden. Georg Cornelius wird dort tatsächlich als "brabantus ex beuelo" geführt. Caspar Fahn, "ex Beuelo itidem brabantus", wird als Taufzeuge bei dieser Taufe aufgeführt. Eine Möglichkeit ist, dass Beverlo im belgischen Limburg gemeint ist. In den dortigen katholischen Kirchenbüchern (St Lambertus) wurde Folgendes gefunden:

Anno 1667
6 martij baptizatus est Georgius filius legitimus Henrici Cornelis et Mariae Cruijsberchs quam susceperunt Walterus van de Vorst et Ioanna Cruijsberchs

Anno 1663
25 ianuarij ininerunt matrimonium in faciae ecclesiae Henricus Cornelis et Maria Crusberchs presentibus Adriano Convents et Ioannae Gossens

Anno 1709
27 Januarij obiit Henricus Cornelis omnibus sacramentis munitus

Siehe die gescannten belgischen Kirchenbücher ('parochieregisters'): www.arch.be

Beverlo lag an der Sprachgrenze zwischen Limburg und Brabant: w (opent in een nieuw tabblad)
ww.paalonline.be/cms55/dikke-van-pale-2017/geschiedenis-limburgse-dialecten/item/2159-het-beringerlands-op-de-schommel-tussen-brabant-en-limburg

Dies ist nur eine Hypothese. Corneli(u)s als Nachname klingt für mich südniederländisch. Vielleicht kann eine Recherche in den örtlichen Schöffenregistern Klarheit schaffen.

Aha Michiel, goed dat je de oorspronkelijke inschrijving hebt kunnen traceren. [ bij Archion zit je voor een betaalmuur..heb daar wel eens een kort abo gehad, maar gezien ik dat momenteel niet meer nodig heb..heb ik dat abo niet verlengd].
Inderdaad, ga nooit alleen af op wat er in een index staat...altijd zelf de inschrijving zien en proberen te lezen. Vandaar mijn vraag om de originele inschrijving ook. Goed dat jij die gevonden hebt, Michiel.

Gezien de doopgetuige - Caspar Fahn- eveneens genoteerd werd als 'ex Beuelo itidem brabantus",...dan ga je denken dat we mogelijk toch te maken hebben met 'Teuten' die als groep vanuit hetzelfde dorp naar eenzelfde streek trokken met hun handelswaar en hun kennis. Ze steunden elkaar en waren dan ook dikwijls bij elkaar's kinderen doopgetuigen. Wat denk je? [ Beverlo kende ook 'Teuten'..het zou kunnen..]. Misschien heeft men bij de Heemkundkring Beverlo wel meer info? In hun tijdschrift [ maart 1991 nr. 3] is er eens een artikel verschenen over de Teuten uit Beverlo.
Misschien kun je daar eens navraag doen?

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Not sure if Mike reads Dutch..., but fyi:
Given that the godfather, Caspar Fahn, was also listed as “ex Beuelo itidem brabantus”,...you start to think that we may be dealing with “Teuten” who, as a group, travelled from the same village to the same region with their wares and their knowledge. They supported each other and were often godparents to each other's children. Beverlo also knew “Teuten”... it could be possible.. Perhaps the Beverlo Local History Society has more information? In their magazine [ March 1991 no. 3], there was once an article about the Teuten from Beverlo.

Da der Pate, Caspar Fahn, ebenfalls als „ex Beuelo itidem brabantus” aufgeführt war, kommt man zu dem Schluss, dass es sich möglicherweise um „Teuten” handelt, die als Gruppe mit ihren Waren und ihrem Wissen aus demselben Dorf in dieselbe Region gereist sind. Sie unterstützten sich gegenseitig und waren oft Paten für die Kinder der anderen. Auch Beverlo kannte „Teuten“ ... es könnte möglich sein ... Vielleicht hat der Heimatverein Beverlo weitere Informationen? In ihrer Zeitschrift [März 1991 Nr. 3] gab es einmal einen Artikel über die Teuten aus Beverlo

Michiel, gezien jij in Archion kunt zoeken ...heb je ook gekeken wie er doopgetuige was bij de dopen van de andere kinderen, mogelijk kun je daarmee nog connecties vinden?
Cornelius, gedoopt 22 april 1707 in Klotten
Margaretha, gedoopt 27 okt 1709 in Klotten

Helena, ik denk dat het inderdaad teuten waren. Ik heb het doopregister van Klotten 1705-1709 doorgelopen en vond het volgende:

- doop 15 januari 1705, vader Hubertus Gerhardts ex Brabantia
- doop 15 februari 1705, vader Peter Bergmann brabantus, doopgetuige o.a. Joannes Jacobs ex Bergeyck im hertzogenbusch
- doop 22 april 1707 Cornelius kind van Joannes Georgius Cornelius en Maria Gertrudis, doopgetuigen Cornelius Huben ex Cocheme en Gertrudis Schadens ex Clotten
- doop 12 oktober 1707 vader Hubertus Gerhardt x Margaretha Sauben
- doop 13 september 1708 kind Joannes Theodorus, van het echtpaar Petrus Bergmans en Maria Catharina Bergmans dicta Fettin
- doop 1 januari 1709, kind Maria Margaretha, van echtpaar Lambert Janssen en Catharina N. , doopgetuige Joannes Kopps von Bergeyck aufm hertzogthumb im Busch
- doop 27 oktober 1709, kind Margaretha, van echtpaar Georges Corneli en Maria Gertrudis N., getuigen Franciscus Losen en Margaretha Gerhardtß [=vermoedelijk de vrouw van Hubert Gerhardts] ambo ex Clotten
- doop 6 augustus 1714, kind Catharina (?) Margaretha, van echtpaar Petrus Berchman en Maria Catharina Castor dicta Berchmans.

Ze kwamen uit Brabant, maar uit Limburg is natuurlijk ook mogelijk.

Ich glaube, sie waren tatsächlich Teuten. Ich habe das Taufregister von Klotten von 1705 bis 1709 durchgesehen und Folgendes gefunden:

– Taufe 15. Januar 1705, Vater Hubertus Gerhardts, ex Brabantia
– Taufe 15. Februar 1705, Vater Peter Bergmann, Brabantus, Taufzeuge u. a. Joannes Jacobs, ex Bergeyck im Hertzogenbusch
– Taufe 22. April 1707, Cornelius, Kind von Joannes Georgius Cornelius und Maria Gertrudis, Taufzeugen Cornelius Huben, ex Cocheme, und Gertrudis Schadens, ex Clotten
– Taufe 12. Oktober 1707, Vater Hubertus Gerhardt x Margaretha Sauben
– Taufe 13. September 1708, Kind Joannes Theodorus, des Ehepaars Petrus Bergmans und Maria Catharina Bergmans dicta Fettin
- Taufe 1. Januar 1709, Kind Maria Margaretha, des Ehepaares Lambert Janssen und Catharina N., Taufzeug. Joannes Kopps von Bergeyck aufm hertzogthumb im Busch
- Taufe 27. Oktober 1709, Kind Margaretha, des Paares Georges Corneli und Maria Gertrudis N., Taufzeugen Franciscus Losen und Margaretha Gerhardtß [vermutlich die Frau von Hubert Gerhardts] ambo ex Clotten
- Taufe 6. August 1714, Kind Catharina (?) Margaretha, des Ehepaares Petrus Berchman und Maria Catharina Castor dicta Berchmans.

Sie kamen aus Brabant, aber auch Limburg ist möglich.

website heemkundekring Bergeijk:

Rechterlijk archief Bergeijk invnr 36:

1694 273 vo Adriaan Anthonis Andriessen inw Bergeik bekent schuld aan Hubert Hendrick Gerrits
geb Bergeyk zich tegenwoordig ophoudend in Cochem bisdom Trier 125fl zoals door
hem en zijn Vader wijlen Antoon Andries ontvangen in 1691 te Clotten, drossaardsambt
Cochem aan Moezel voor notaris Hubert Kelen.

website heemkundekring Bergeijk:
vorige bericht is niet invnr 36, maar invnr 35

De volgende samenvatting betreft rechterlijk archief Bergeijk, invnr 36:

1701 25 vo Adriaan Anthonis Andriessen aan Huijbert Gerrits, te Clotten Churfurstendom van Trier,
het Heerkensvelt, 5 spijntzaat, Broekstraat, r.: Jan Andriessen, Margriet Joosten de
Scheper, Gemeene landtshoeve, gemeene straat (vgl 35 f273vo)

Deze Huijbert Gerrits is vermoedelijk de Hubert Gerhardts die ik in de kerkboeken van Klotten 1705-1709 vond.

Wel Michiel, dat was een korte nacht voor je... :-) Of zit je soms ook in een andere tijdzone?

Mike, - [ do you speak German or English?] .... not sure if you heard about 'Teuten' (the peddlars) before? Peddlars traded in all sorts of things: from coppersmith work, to medicines and herbs, textiles, trading in womens' hair (during the wig-period) etc. This trading was done in the spring- and summer months. In wintertime they returned - in general- to their home villages...unless they settled 'abroad'. In some villages in this Brabant- region (and indeed some places in the Limburg area), up to half of the population was involved in this type of trade.

Thank you to everyone who has responded. There is a lot of potential information. The information I have is copies of the church records from Klotten. I also have some information from the Klotten Family Book. The 1673 reference is when Jos. Corneli was a baptismal sponsor. I did find possible matches from the Boekel region and Budel. I need more accurate proof. I was thinking it was possible Jos. Corneli came to Klotten and later his son Joannes Georgius came and stayed. I have all 3 baptismal records of his children. It does state he was married in Klotten. The idea of a Teuten might make sense. I will try some of the suggested sites. I struggle to navigate them. Usually I can get an english translation which helps
We are traveling to Germany next year and my hope is to find and visit my ancestors village in Brabant. Thank you again to everyone. I am surprised at the responses and very grateful

Indeed Mike, - accurate evidence is what counts. One can't guess...
However, at some point in the late 17th or early 18th century, it is often not possible to find anything because registers are missing or because nothing was recorded about our ancestors. Perhaps the marriage registers of Klotten are missing? Otherwise, there might be more information in them?

It will not be easy to find the ancestors without knowing exactly which place [in Brabant?] is meant.

If with certainty we are dealing with 'teuten', then you do not need to look in Boekel. They were not known in this village.
The origins and places of residence of the ‘teuten’ [singular: a ‘teut’] in Brabant should mainly be sought in what we know in Dutch as ‘De Kempen’.
De Kempen, in English >> en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campine (opent in een nieuw tabblad) Border area of present-day Dutch and Belgian provinces of Brabant.
And in places in the current Dutch province of Limburg, more specific around Weert, Nederweert, Roggel, Thorn and overlapping in the Belgian province of Limburg around Overpelt, Hamont-Achel etc.

For centuries, the ‘teuten’ travelled long distances to earn a living with their wares, their trade and skills. It was usually out of sheer necessity that people started trading [the soils were poor], but over time, these itinerant 'teuten' often ended up with more possessions than those who stayed behind. The ‘teuten’ became - generally speaking- the wealthier families in their villages.

At an unrelated baptism, a godparent – Joannes Jacobs from Bergeijk - was noted in 1705 in Klotten (see Michiel's contributions). One might think that they knew each other from earlier times in the village or nearby area in the Netherlands? Bergmans / Berchmans is a known name in the Kempen area.

Since ‘Brabant’ is mentioned, try searching in places in the wider Kempen area and possibly overlapping somewhat in Belgian province of Limburg.
Budel (Buul in dialect)
Bergeijk (Bergaaik in dialect)
Borkel (Börrukel in dialect)
Bocholt (Bogget in dialect)
Beverlo (Bejevel of Bjaevel in dialect?)

Perhaps you can find another clue in the Klotten Family Book or in the Klotten magistrate’s protocols.
Found one with scans online...covering 1467-1704...
archive.nrw.de/archivsuche (opent in een nieuw tabblad)
Landesarchiv NRW Abteilung Rheinland
AA 0172 / Brauweiler, Akten AA 0172, Nr. 39 - n
Klotten und Moselbesitzungen - Schöffenprotokoll von Klotten (Abschrift)
Laufzeit 1467-1704

I should have answers your question earlier. I am from the U.S. so I speak English. I had 3 years of German when I was in school many many years ago. I am trying to learn Germany again online, not easy at 71 years old. We will be returning to Germany next year and am hoping I can converse at least a little with our German friends. I now think Budel will be on our list to visit.
I have been doing a little research and Kempen did come up. I also looked at the pages that I copied from the Klotten Church records. Peter Bergman was in the records as coming from Brabanty. I will try and find other connections from the Klotten family book. I was told 11 people emigrated from Brabant. I have been searching on My Heritage in the Brabant region. There are very many Cornelius,Cornelis, Corneli, Cornely, and a few other spelling ; of people from the region. There are several possibilities. There however is only one Joannes Gerorgius Cornelius from Budel. He was born in 1675. That date fits if his first child was born in 1705; that would have made him 30 years old. His father Arnoldus was from Budel as was his father Joannes. I will keep trying to look through the sites that you have suggested. I think the other travelers from Brabant certainly gives credibility to the Teuten connection. The pronunciation of Budel as " Buul " makes sense with two documents referencing Beuel and Beuelo as where Joannes Georgius had come from. This information may be as much confirmation that I will find.
On a slightly different topic. I checked my family tree for the name Jacobs. I have a lot of them in my tree. The odd part is, it is not from my fathers side; Korneli, it is from my mothers side. My mothers mother was a Van der Bloemen. Theodore Van der Bloemen was from Horst Limburg, he married Maria Jacobs who was from Helden Limburg. Theodore's father was also from Horst. I have not worked hard on my mother's side of the family tree. It looks like both sides may have originated close to each other. Truely a small world.

First of all, my respect for your perseverance and persistence. You refer to a baptism in Budel from 1675. I consulted the index and only found a baptism from June 23, 1675. Perhaps that's what you mean? The parents are Arnoldus Cornelij and Anna Cupers. But the child is only called Joannes, not Joannes Ge(r)orgius...
Returning to the baptismal witness in Klotten from 1705: Caspar Fahns. The name Fahns could be a shortened form of Stephans, Stevens, or Steffens. The name Fahns in the Dutch Republic in the 18th century is very rare.

I've looked further into the baptismal registers of Klotten. In 1695, the baptismal witness Egidius Dederichß is listed as "auß Brabant in Niederverth." This probably refers to Nederweert, which is now in the Dutch province of Limburg. At the time, in the 18th century, it belonged to Austrian Upper Guelders, thus the Austrian Netherlands. It was close to the Brabant border, but was therefore—strictly speaking—not Brabant. I don't think we should stick too strictly to the "Brabantus" description, as I suspect they didn't know it precisely in Klotten either.

See for the baptism entry of 1675: rhc-eindhoven.nl/collectie?mivast=48&mizig=236&miadt=48&miview=ldt&milang=nl&micode=DTB_Budel_10225_8.1&miaet=54 (opent in een nieuw tabblad)

Landesarchiv NRW Abteilung Rheinland
AA 0172 / Brauweiler, Akten AA 0172, Nr. 39 - n
Klotten und Moselbesitzungen - Schöffenprotokoll von Klotten (Abschrift)
Laufzeit 1467-1704

Scan 374
Dienstags den 31. Marty Ao 1699.
Erscheine Rutgerus Wallinckrodt, derselve exhibirte sein manuale und klattbuch, daßen Inhalts Marx Rodier zu Clotten für sich und seinen hausfrau vom Jahr 1697 d. 11 May Liquido schüldig 28. Rthlr 6 al mitt bitt auff der debitoren …Praetendirt für sich und nahmens mitt Consorten ahn Marx Rodier, Lambert Janssen und Wilhelmen Artz qua socios Vermöge handtbuchs 239 rthl. 33 al welche am 3. Augusti vorigen 1698 Jahres berechnet, bittene auf der debitoren allinge effecten wohnhhäuser, coniugeraten, wiesen und garten wie solche nahmene haben..

Scan 376
Sambtag 28 9bris Ao ut supra [1699]
Hauperich Gerharts, leinentuch händler alhier / gibt vor wie daß Johan Janssen gleichmáßig leintuch krämer ihm wegen empfangene wahren schüldig sey die sumonam ad 80. Rhtr. mitt bitt, …

Montagß den 2. 9bris 1699.
Eodem
Cornelius Hauben bürger der statt Cochem repetirt seine am 26 octob. jüngst vor Hr. Voigten ad protocollum gethane anzeig und bitt, und weilen Wilhelm Artz und Lamberten Janssen dermahlen bereits convincirt daß sie annoch in Societate mit Marx Rodier sind gestanden, alß derselben die praetendirenen wahren von ihm Hauben bekommen derwegen halten der vor des diese erweisen müßen, daß er Hauben ein der Cammerathschafft erlasßen, und den Marxen allein pro debitore angenohmen so lange und weill aber solcheß nit geschehen, batte pro continuatio arrest….

Scan 378
Montags den 11. Jan. 1700
Seint Cornelius Hauben und Wilhelm Artz wegen Veter sich gehabt und ventlliotz process vor gericht dahin vergleichen worden, daß er Artz dem klägnon Hauben für alle an ihm gehabte Ansprache semel pro semper 7. Rthlr. In zeit von 8. tagen bezalen solle, wobey gleichwoll dem Actori Hauben sein rückgriff an übrigen Cammerathen Lamberten, Marx Rodiers wittib und dienen stiefftsohn wie auch Andressen Alt alß socios vorbehaltllch….
Wilhelm Artz
Diß ist Cornelius Hauben selbst formiertes haußmerck weilen schreibenß unerfahren

Here are some cursory excerpts from the Klotten Schöffen protokoll. I didn't find George Corneli in it at first glance. It's now almost certain that they were "teuten" (a group of people who worked in a cooperative). Cornelius Huben, who was a witness to George Corneli's baptism in 1707, is likely the same person as Cornelis Hauben, a citizen of the town of Cochem. The name Hauben/Houben suggests a Limburg origin.

Hauperich Gerharts – für den aufmerksamen Leser – ist derselbe wie Hubert Gerharts aus dem Taufregister von Klotten. Ich bin mir sicher, dass er ein „Teut“ war; er erscheint im Protokoll mehrfach.

Michael, you are correct. I did my last post from memory. When I did a My Heritage search for Joannes Georgius Cornelius from Budel I found 4 people from the region. There were many more from Brabant. Two of the people did not fit the date range to be a possibility. There was one Joannes from Reusel. Certainly from the region, not sure if Teutens came from that far west. There was one Joannes Cornelius from Budel. It did not reference Georgius as a middle name. He was the only person that fit the date range and name. Joannes Georgius Cornelius documents state he was from Beuel or Beuelo. Budel is pronounced "Buul"; that would explain why people spelled it the way they did.

Church documents state Peter Bergman was from Brabant. In a My Heritage search it shows Peter Bergman from Brabant, Budel. Budel Teuten records list Bergmann.

I looked at old German handwriting examples. I read the baptismal sponsor as Casper Jahn. The church record again say he was from Beuelo. The Budel Teuten record list Jansen and Janassen. It might be a possibility.

Johann Reinhard Cornely married Ann Maria Clasen. She was born in 1801. I do not have earlier history for her. There were record of Claassen in the Budel Teuten records.

When you look at the records from Joannes from Budel more connections show up. His sister was married to a Jacobs. There are Klotten connections.

Another sister Ida, is listed three times. Obviously, a human error. One time she is listed as Ida De Kees Jan. There is a Petreus Kees listed as a baptismal sponsor in 1673 Klotten church records.

One of Joannes baptismal sponsors is Henricus Bogars. There are several spellings of this name in the Budel Teuten records.

Joannes father Arnoldus has two siblings listed as Henricus D Kees and Cornelius Kees. There are multiple records for Kees in the Budel Teuten records.

The Budel Teuten records also list Cornelissen in their records. None are exact matches unfortunately.

I am still looking for 6 more people who emigrated from Brabant to Klotten. I will try to get them from the Klotten Family Book. The evidence that Joannes Georgius Cornelius from Klotten is the Joannes from Budel is very strong given all the connections. I will keep researching. Thank you for your help. If you find anything else please let me know. As I try to use the sites you suggested I might need some help. Best Regards Mike

Familysearch
Bernardus Melius Baptism 18 September 1692 Treis, Cochem, Rheinprovinz
Parents Cornelius Melius and Catharina Pupeliers

Cochim St. Martin Kirchenbuch 1 (1691-1775)
www.archion.de

25.ta Jan. 1697
Cornelius Nellius et Catharina Pupiliers conj. Cochmen patrinus Joannes Pupilier, matrina Helena Pupiliers, infans Helen

12ma Augusti 1700.
Cornelius Hoben et Catharina Conjuges Cochm Matthias Schaben Civis Cochm Elisabeth Poutin matrina. Infans Elisabetha . nata 11 augusti ejusdem anni

4:ta Martij 1703
Cornelius Huben et Catharina Pupiliers, patr. G e o rg i u s C o r n e l i s, matr. Margaretha Gerharts Infans [no name]

1703.6:ta 8bris
Nicolaus Muller et Helena Pupilliers conj Cochmen, patr. Cornelius Hubel, matr.
Catharina Mullers ex Cochem []
Cornelius natus 4:ta 8bris

14. Aprils 1704
Cornelius Engels
Baptizavi Cornelium filium legitiman honestorum Jacobi Engels et Elisabetha Populiers conjugum civium Cochemen. Patrinus erat Cornelius Houven matrina Domina Maria Gudula Hoenerin. Infans et supra

11.a Aprilis 1705
Baptizavi Cornelium filium legitimum honestorum Gerhardi Meckeler et Helena Margaretha Krieskell conjugum civium Cochemens, patrinus fuit Cornelius Hauben, matrina Maria Joanetta Stoltz[]
9na Junij 1705
Baptizavi Mariam Agnetem filiam legitimam honoestorum Antonij Jousten et Mariae Margarethae Mertens conjugum in Dour Patrinus Joannes Mertens ex Beuren, matrina Maria Agnes Jousten

Eodem 9 Junij 1705
Baptizavi Cornelium fillium legitimum honetorum Joannes Gerrard et Margaretha Jacobs conjugum civium Cochemenz. Patrinus fuit Cornelius Hauben, matrina Agnes Schoulte

5. Octobris 1705
Baptizata fuit Casparus filius legitimus honestorum Cornelij Hauben et Catharinae Poubliez conjugum civium Cochemens. Patrinus fuit Casparus van Hauth cujus loci stetit Joannes Muller, matrina Catharina Wiertzin

Bild 110

Eodem {3 Maij 1708]
Baptizatus est Gerhardus filius legitimus honestorum Cornelij Hauben et Catharinae Poupilier conjugum civium Cochemen patrinus fuit Gerhardus Meckener, matrina Maria Bruners (?)

31. Janaurij 1711
Baptizatus est Hubertus filius legitimus honestorum Cornelij Hauben et Catharinae Poubliez conjugum civium Cochem, Patrinus fuit Hubertus Gerharts, matrina Maria Catharina Schwart

Hi, I recommend checking the baptismal records of Cochem and Klotten. I've already made a start, but haven't exhaustively reviewed everything. You can find scans of the church records for Cochem and Klotten at www.archion.de (a one-month subscription is available). Finding a village and a baptismal record that you can't (yet) prove is the person you're looking for seems like a needle in a haystack. It seems more logical to start at the other end of the line, namely in Klotten and Cochem. Perhaps you've heard of the term "Fan Club," coined by Elizabeth Shown Mills, the most famous American genealogist of our time. FAN stands for
Friends,
Associates,
and Neighbors.

See: cyndislist.com/research-methodology/fan-club/ (opent in een nieuw tabblad)

It's also called "cluster research," and involves searching in the circles surrounding the person in question—in this case, Georgius Cornelis—to find out who his Friends, Associates, and Neighbors were. For this, the baptismal records and the Protokoll mentioned by Helena (unfortunately only extends to 1705) are an excellent starting point. Then, of course, you have the Klotten Familienbuch. That already provides a network. If you don't get direct clues about where people originated, you could then look at where the surnames appear in the Kempen region and neighboring Limburg. I personally prefer to consult the indexes and associated scans at the Brabant Historical Information Centre (www.bhic.nl), the Regional Historical Centre Eindhoven for the church records of the Kempen region (www.rhc-eindhoven.nl), or the website www.aezel.eu for the church records of Limburg. For example, I saw—but this needs further investigation—that a Nelis Houben appeared in Nederweert in 1691 and in the neighboring municipality of Limburg in 1692. The surname Van Haut/Van Hout is common in Nederweert and Weert (but also very common in Beverlo...).

Good luck with your research and don't let anything discourage you!